Each vehicle table has two other files to go with, one denoting customization, the other denoting variants. As for the APC, if you mean the 6 wheeled vehicle, there is no version without the turret. I am assuming the vehicle you are talking about is the one you don't have a target/NPC to shoot directly. The key to getting that turret to quit spitting bullets at you is firing your accurate weapon into the glass on the sides of the APC....killing the occupants. File containing all tables: Misc_Tables.vppc_pc. Extract using Minimaul's tool "ThomasJepp.SaintsRow.ExtractPackfileGUI.exe" to a folder outside your game folder(!!!) APC vehicle table: sp_apc01_veh.xtbl APC variants table: sp_apc01.xtbl APC customization table: sp_apc01_cust.xtbl You should probably start you own threads in the Help or Chat sections to continue, so as not to derail this thread. Good luck.