Re: Flippy's video

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Likewise for me, it's been a long time since I posted here.

I guess you could say that drama brings back those that have a connection to what is affected by it. I've pretty much moved over to the sidelines ever since a mod patch for SR4 was being worked on. Never really dipped my toes into AOM, and saw how broken and shallow the reboot was.

I honestly thought that that was it for Saints Row. The community is more divided than that of Need for Speed of all IPs, when NFS as an IP has changed face 4 times now. Quite telling when a franchise has 2 subreddits that both hate each other.

Volition is shut down, the IP is still in the hands of Deep Shit. I wonder how much more garbage that is not SR will have a purple fleur de lys slapped on it, regardless of its sales power at this point.

I had always hoped that the mods community would silently flourish while the rest of the community was in essentially civil war. But to see the drama even get to here... In any case, misusing the credentials of someone you can consider representative of the community, is unacceptable.

It really only just leaves me to wonder; why? What during the for I suppose Thomas was a development hell that is the patch for SR2 PC led him to make such outlandish decisions? To remain fair, I have absolutely no idea what the person's situation personally is, but that shouldn't affect a community in the way it did, even if this forum is hosted in private out of the good will of one's heart.

We all carry a backpack of regrets. Things we wished we did or didn't, and Mike Watson carried the heaviest one in this entire community.

I don't want to just believe Thomas is just an outright evil person to his core, despite his actions. That would be easy. I would like to understand what has led Thomas to such inane and ridiculous ideas and actions. We don't need an apology video, we just need honesty.

Why couldn't he just be up front about his inability to progress the patch? Why stir up drama, instead of coming with an honest statement? If it's that heavy for an immediate response, take time, but just keep it honest.


For whatever crap I have made in the past, anyone that wants to use it feel free however they want. Where Mike worked on the SR2 PC patch on his own, even with disabilities, till his dying breath, even knowing that at some point it wouldn't be finished in his lifetime, I have plenty of life left ahead but still haven't tried to finish what I worked on anyways.

I'll upload what I have left to release for the original SRTT, but that'll be my last.

If only the rightsholders to the IP actually handled the Saints Row IP with any form of responsibility and listened to the voices of concern, there wouldn't have been any drama that would reach even the mods forums, which I've been part of since age 15.

I pray that Mike Watson makes his dreams come true in the next life, and I wish each and everyone of you the best. The mods community was always the best part of the SR community to be part of.
 
jesus, this whole situation is really fucked up

do we know who's gonna own the site after he transfers it or is it gonna be like a constitutional democracy or whatever

sorry, i just don't really have much more to say that hasn't already been said by people up here except like "hurr durr i don't like minimaul"
 
jesus, this whole situation is really fucked up

do we know who's gonna own the site after he transfers it or is it gonna be like a constitutional democracy or whatever

sorry, i just don't really have much more to say that hasn't already been said by people up here except like "hurr durr i don't like minimaul"
mrsaintsgodzilla21 and megafreeman owns the forum now..
 
do we know who's gonna own the site after he transfers it or is it gonna be like a constitutional democracy or whatever
MegaFreeman and mrsaintsgodzilla

Minimaul also pm'd me, but that part didn't materialize since flippy's second video sped up his exit quite a lot. Not sure if the site itself has been transferred, I assume we'll hear an announcement then.
 
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mrsaintsgodzilla21 and megafreeman owns the forum now..

oh, right. sorry man i kinda stopped reading pages 3 to like 6 because i thought it was just gonna be shit like "fuck you minimaul you bitch!" which is fair enough, but like someone should get the bullet points out for the deaf and dumb in the back
 
MegaFreeman and mrsaintsgodzilla

Minimaul also pm'd me, but that part didn't materialize since flippy's second video sped up his exit quite a lot. Not sure if the site itself has been transferred, I assume we'll hear an announcement then. View attachment 38543

i've never seen anyone apart from this dude type with so many fucking hyphens jesus christ
 
I'm glad the drama's over but sad to see what happened and I still can't believe it happened. I'm also glad the forums isn't dead, it would be really sad if everything posted here, all the mods, guides, screenshots, memories disappeared forever. I'm happy there are modders willing to patch SR2 themselves and I wish you good luck!
Yes, Megafreeman and Godzilla are the new owners, I downgraded my own role to moderator since I won't be super active here anymore. Being an admin was an interesting experience. There have been some smaller dramas before but nothing compares to this.
So yea I'm taking a break. I have a ton of projects to finish (I'm focused on making art, Cyberpunk mods and models for a game rn) but I'll be visiting the forums from time to time ;)
 
I feel similar. I'm glad this mess is over, but I can't help but feel disappointed and sad that it happened in the first place. I enjoyed being an admin here and helping the forum in the past, and while there's been problems here and there, this latest incident was by far the worst.

In the aftermath of the drama, I personally am torn. Originally I had wanted to step down as an admin when the reboot came out, but decided to stay in order to keep maintaining the forum until things could get better, which unfortunately didn't happen.

The fact that I had stayed admin made me suspect of what happened after Minimaul's original apology post. It made me wish I had resigned my role last year. Now I don't know how to move forward. Before it was known who would take over the forum, my plan was to step down and have my account deleted with my mods still available to be downloaded. But now that the new owners are chosen and I know both of them to be responsible and trusted individuals, I don't see the need to have my account wiped. However, I'm unsure of how to proceed with the admin thing. Some people were quick to point a finger at us as the culprits without giving us a chance to defend ourselves. It shows me that by at least some, I'm not trusted to have admin priviliges here. Even now that our names are cleared, I still can't shake that uncomfortable feeling of being accused and suspected.

For that reason I want to step away. But the new owners don't have experience with the site and day to day activities yet. Should I stay so that they have someone experienced for now? There's still a lot of questions and doubt in my mind that will take me some time to process.

Among all the bad, at least some good seems to have come from this. I've seen people posting their thoughts here that haven't been active in years, new efforts being put together towards patching SR2 in the community, and having new owners who are known and respected in the community and still care for the series. Perhaps this is a new chapter for the forum and modding community as a whole, hopefully we still have plenty to look forward to.
 
For those of you feeling burnt out and absolutely exhausted by this situation and feel the best choice is to step down and walk away, I say I completely understand but hope that after you've had some time away you come back and let that original passion you had burn just as bright as it ever has, while I might not have known Mike personally and had little time to make much conversation I feel that he wouldn't want us to give up completely, if you feel that this space has become to much of a reminder than please I ask that you check in from time to time and maybe even join the community I'm building for a Engine replacement for saints row 2, I'll be posing more information Monday regarding the discord and such.
 
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