Re: Flippy's video

[Saint_of_the_Barrio]

Even though I'm a considerably new user in this site and a fairly late SR fan (I still prefer 1 and 2 way over what came after) it just saddens me to see that this once thriving and happy community has become less than a shadow of it's former self, that Volition will go down in history as the company that "could have" if better decisions were made and elements beyond it's control didn't screw them over.
I've done quite a bit of modding and while my knowledge of SR1+2 mods is limited it still makes me feel like I did something with myself, specially since I had to learn how to use the tools by myself and with outdated info.
While all that happened is a tragedy, we can't allow that to end the community as a whole, there's nothing wrong with liking the past over the present, specially when the present has no future, so let's just keep going.
I'll just wait and hope that one day, maybe hopefully one day someone will leak the SR2 source code and the people interested will fix the game on their own. And even if that never happens, we'll always have GoTR and Xenia.
Seeing how mrsaintsgodzilla and megafreeman own the forum now it feels me with hope that the mods and memories here are going to stay, I know they can be trusted.
TLDR It's over, but that don't mean we have to all just leave.

 

[Quantum]

I am overcome with sadness at what was once a wonderful group of dedicated and talented collaborators who worked so hard toward a common goal of making Saints Row the best it could be. Although I haven't been active in the Saints Row community for some time, I communicated with both Minimaul and IdolNinja in the past when I worked on several mods and tools for Saints Row 3. I respect both of them for their hard work and dedication. IdolNinja was kind enough to make me a forum administrator, although I did not have the time to contribute even a small fraction of the amount of work that both Admixon and Singa have dedicated to maintaining this forum. To Admixon and SInga: Your hard work has been an invaluable asset to the Saints Row world, and is very much appreciated. Like all of us, I was devastated when IdolNinja died. I never really recovered emotionally from that terrible loss.

Minimaul is a vary talented programmer, and he has done so much for the modding community and the SR2 PC port. Without his work and mod tools, there would not be this forum or most of the mods that exist today. Game engine development is a very complex and time-consuming endeavor, and it doesn't surprise me that the amount of effort required to fix all the SR2 PC issues was just overwhelming for a single person to attempt. To be honest, I'm quite impressed with all the things Minimaul was able to accomplish. I only wish the interactions between Minimaul and IdolNinja had been more cordial. It saddens me to see how things went between the two of these men who I greatly respect for all their accomplishments.

 

[Quantum]

Are you aware though of the takeover of Flippy's account? There's a lot of evidence pointing to Mini with that...

I am aware of the account takeover from reading this thread, but I was not reading the forum when the event occurred so I didn't see the actual posts (which have apparently been deleted). I don't know what evidence there is pointing to Mini, so I can't comment on that.

I've been on this forum for 9 years, and I remember the good times when everyone was working together toward a common goal. I think a lot of people, including myself, became disenchanted with the Saints Row series as Volition seemed to lose direction in the game's continuity with each new game they released. That led to a lot of frustration and apathy among fans. All this work -- creating mods and mod tools, forum programming and administration, and game engine development -- takes a LOT of time and effort. And most of us have full time jobs too. I suspect all of that was a factor in some poor choices that were made.