NPC Model Swap assistance

[3rdStreetSaint 212]

Less of a mod request, more of a request for help making a mod. I've recently been taught how to swap Character models in SRIV, but the whole Aliens & Super Powers just isn't part of the experience I'm looking for.

I know there are tutorials for how to transfer SRIV models to SRTT... But I just can't follow instructions without assistance. Someone was helping me, but they're not entirely sure how to help with this particular problem.

In case it's necessary, this is the basics of what I'm trying to do:

Saints:
Shaundi - SR2 Shaundi
Kinzie - SRTT Kinzie (But from SRIV)

Syndicate:
Loren - SR2 Playa
Viola - Lin
Kiki - SRTT Shaundi (But from SRIV)
Matt - Presidential Pierce
Killbane - SRTT Gat (But from SRIV)
Morningstar Specialist - Mr. Sunshine
Deckers Specialist - Jyunichi
Luchadores Specialist - Maero
Morningstar - Combination of Saints, Samedi, Ronin, Brotherhood
Deckers - Combination of Saints, Ronin, Brotherhood
Luchadores - Combination of Saints, Brotherhood

SNG:
SNG - Masako

STAG:
Temple - SR1 Playa
Kia - Tanya
STAG Soldiers - Combination of Saints, Vice Kings

Misc: (If Possible)
Technically Legal Spawn - Johnny Gat (Recruit-able) either sat on a chair watching the show, or stood cheering or something (Intended for the Gang Bang mission)

There are lots more details, like mission specific spawns, notoriety spawns, district spawns, model variants... But in order to do any of it, I need to get the SRIV models into SRTT first. So any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[L'Andromada]

Sorry, I'm not gonna be able to help you. This is me just uping the request.

A while ago I tried to import the Zombie models from SR4 into SR3 following this guide Replacing NPCs with SR4 models. However after following all the steps to a T, the peds I had given the new models always refused to spawn, no matter what I did.

So yeah, some people have mastered this skill. This isn't my case.

 

[3rdStreetSaint 212]

Sorry, I'm not gonna be able to help you. This is me just uping the request.

A while ago I tried to import the Zombie models from SR4 into SR3 following this guide Replacing NPCs with SR4 models. However after following all the steps to a T, the peds I had given the new models always refused to spawn, no matter what I did.

So yeah, some people have mastered this skill. This isn't my case.

Yeah, and I know it is definitely possible to learn how to do this, because someone made the Vice Kings Takeover mod for me.

I've even tried studying the files in that mod to see if I can figure out what I need to do... But all that happened is I got frustrated because the Gibbed Tools exe wouldn't actually do anything. No matter how many times I clicked it.

I learn better from a live tutorial, so if I get stuck, I can ask questions between steps.

Edit:
Actually, coming back to where I left off... I may not need Gibbed Tools... At least not for the extraction part. It seems I've inadvertently completed the extraction process for both character.vpp_pc files using ThomasJepp.SaintsRow.ExtractPackfilesGUI.exe

Edit:
Hold on... According to the readme, this "ThomasJepp" tool pack is compatible with SRTT & SRIV... Does that mean that any steps telling me to use Gibbed Tools, I can just use ThomasJepp instead?

Edit:
Well, it didn't matter which extractor I used for the str2 files, because none of them did anything. I'm trying not to get frustrated, but this happens to me whenever I try to learn anything. The first time I tried learning to use the Washing Machine, I broke it... There was water everywhere... I guess I'm just a special kind of useless.

 

[XLegendary BossX]

Yeah, and I know it is definitely possible to learn how to do this, because someone made the Vice Kings Takeover mod for me.

I've even tried studying the files in that mod to see if I can figure out what I need to do... But all that happened is I got frustrated because the Gibbed Tools exe wouldn't actually do anything. No matter how many times I clicked it.

I learn better from a live tutorial, so if I get stuck, I can ask questions between steps.

Edit:
Actually, coming back to where I left off... I may not need Gibbed Tools... At least not for the extraction part. It seems I've inadvertently completed the extraction process for both character.vpp_pc files using ThomasJepp.SaintsRow.ExtractPackfilesGUI.exe

Edit:
Hold on... According to the readme, this "ThomasJepp" tool pack is compatible with SRTT & SRIV... Does that mean that any steps telling me to use Gibbed Tools, I can just use ThomasJepp instead?

Edit:
Well, it didn't matter which extractor I used for the str2 files, because none of them did anything. I'm trying not to get frustrated, but this happens to me whenever I try to learn anything. The first time I tried learning to use the Washing Machine, I broke it... There was water everywhere... I guess I'm just a special kind of useless.

I think you're using the wrong one, to extract use "Gibbed.SaintsRow3.UnpackSTR2" then replace the models then to repack "Gibbed.SaintsRow3.PackSTR2" then dump the 2 new files where the game exe is. But I think you need ASM updater tool to update the files

 

[3rdStreetSaint 212]

"Gibbed.SaintsRow3.UnpackSTR2"

I dragged and dropped the files onto this exact exe, but nothing happened. A little black window with text on it appeared for a few seconds, but I didn't even get a chance to read any of it before the window closed.

I looked around for any new folders that might have been made, but found nothing

 

[L'Andromada]

I'll come back to this thread, when I attempt it again. This probably won't happen anytime soon though, still barely having enough time to enjoy my hobbies.

I wish SRTT received a bit more love... *sigh*

 

[3rdStreetSaint 212]

I had another Model Swap mod idea, but with the intent to keep SRTT relatively intact.

I'm only posting it in this thread because I'm still having trouble figuring out how to get SRIV Models into SRTT. I can swap around all the models in both games as much as I want, but I can't swap them between games no matter how persistently I try.

I'll post images of which models I want swapped with which, as well as an explanation as to why and how it will fit into the story.

Bikers:
Dusty - Masako


Arthur - Brotherhood 01


Dakota - Cypher


Anna - Brotherhood 02


Clubbers:
Ella - Lin


Claude - Donnie


Just like Gat's death being rectified in SRIV, Lin's off screen death is rectified, she managed to survive and lived in hiding until Donnie left the Brotherhood. The two of them were about to withdraw all their savings and move to a new city, when the Saints showed up at the bank and got them caught up in another turf war. After that, Pierce has them infiltrate the downtown penthouse to aid the Saints, then Donnie decides to take to the media game to help gain publicity for the Saints. (There will be one awkward moment where the Boss finds out that Donnie runs 3 Count, but hey, it wouldn't be a true Saints Row game if Donnie didn't get manhandled at some point) Lin also goes undercover to get more information on the Luchadores... Until she's found out and the Boss has to fake an assassination to get her out of there.

Punks:
Vincent - Ronin 02


Juan - Samedi 02


Sophia - Ronin 01


Myra - Samedi 01


Pierce uses his Saints Flow ad to promote the new Saints movie based on the events in Stilwater. But when arriving in Steelport, they realise the remaining Stilwater Gangs already got comfortable working with the Syndicate, and even running a protection racket with a Gas Station in Espina.

Mains:
Shaundi - Fun Shaundi


Shaundi Bobblehead - Fun Shaundi Nude


With her new game show and the stress of running Ultor, Shaundi decided to try and relax by joining the Boss on the bank heist. She even got a little high and decided her war on pants was valid again, this is short lived when Birk instantly falls in love with her.

Morningstar Specialist - Bizman06 (Dex)

After Dex fled Stilwater, he joined the Syndicate, not the most exiting plot, but at least you get to blow him up repeatedly.

Ralph - Zimos Bondage


Zimos Bondage - Zombie Gat


Zimos - Gat


Zombie Gat - Zimos


This is just my "Zimos Left Behind" mod, but I figured I'd include it with this mod, as it doesn't really change the story too much, and allows Gat to live in what I consider to be the last canonical Saint Row game.

 

[RollingVoxel]

Less of a mod request, more of a request for help making a mod. I've recently been taught how to swap Character models in SRIV, but the whole Aliens & Super Powers just isn't part of the experience I'm looking for.

I know there are tutorials for how to transfer SRIV models to SRTT... But I just can't follow instructions without assistance. Someone was helping me, but they're not entirely sure how to help with this particular problem.

In case it's necessary, this is the basics of what I'm trying to do:

Saints:
Shaundi - SR2 Shaundi
Kinzie - SRTT Kinzie (But from SRIV)

Syndicate:
Loren - SR2 Playa
Viola - Lin
Kiki - SRTT Shaundi (But from SRIV)
Matt - Presidential Pierce
Killbane - SRTT Gat (But from SRIV)
Morningstar Specialist - Mr. Sunshine
Deckers Specialist - Jyunichi
Luchadores Specialist - Maero
Morningstar - Combination of Saints, Samedi, Ronin, Brotherhood
Deckers - Combination of Saints, Ronin, Brotherhood
Luchadores - Combination of Saints, Brotherhood

SNG:
SNG - Masako

STAG:
Temple - SR1 Playa
Kia - Tanya
STAG Soldiers - Combination of Saints, Vice Kings

Misc: (If Possible)
Technically Legal Spawn - Johnny Gat (Recruit-able) either sat on a chair watching the show, or stood cheering or something (Intended for the Gang Bang mission)

There are lots more details, like mission specific spawns, notoriety spawns, district spawns, model variants... But in order to do any of it, I need to get the SRIV models into SRTT first. So any help would be greatly appreciated.

Keep in mind, when doing this with Reelected edition, it will NOT work; both legacy and SRTT have vastly different model translation. I have no idea why this is, but you cannot port a SRTT model to Reelected or vice versa. The game can crash or it will disregard the model and send you a major f*ck you by not spawning in the NPC. So, you have to use legacy instead.

 

[3rdStreetSaint 212]

Keep in mind, when doing this with Reelected edition, it will NOT work; both legacy and SRTT have vastly different model translation. I have no idea why this is, but you cannot port a SRTT model to Reelected or vice versa. The game can crash or it will disregard the model and send you a major f*ck you by not spawning in the NPC. So, you have to use legacy instead.

I have Legacy installed. The problem I'm having is not on the Game's end, it's on my end. I can't figure out how the tools work. The instructions for how to use the tools "while clear to most people" are confusing for me. I've always had learning disabilities and a short temper when things don't work, despite me following the instructions as best I can.

Like I said above, I've gotten as far as being able to switch NPC models around in both SRTT & SRIV (Legacy), but haven't been able to figure out how to switch them between games.

 

[RollingVoxel]

I have Legacy installed. The problem I'm having is not on the Game's end, it's on my end. I can't figure out how the tools work. The instructions for how to use the tools "while clear to most people" are confusing for me. I've always had learning disabilities and a short temper when things don't work, despite me following the instructions as best I can.

Like I said above, I've gotten as far as being able to switch NPC models around in both SRTT & SRIV (Legacy), but haven't been able to figure out how to switch them between games.

Drag and drop the characters.vpp onto the ExtractPackfile tool, find the character you want to use (ex. npc_gat) and extract that file as well which will give you his models (the folder created should be named npc_(character's name)_extracted or smth. Repeat with SR3 with the character you want to replace, remove the files from the character's folder that just got extracted besides the asm if there is one, and drag and drop the files from the SR4 character into the other character's packfile; rename the files to the same names as the SR3 character's files, finally, use BuildPackfileGUI to build the folder you just edited back into a packfile before dragging that built packfile into the game's main directory.