SPOILERS I want everyones honest opinion

And flat out lying about the game "There are no Saint Row type activities in this new Saint Row game!"

Got some new, got some returned items (insurance scam is always awesome).
I dunno about you, but I think sequels should be clear upgrades over their predecessors. SR2022 is essentially Crackdown 3 all over again. Was that a sequel to Crackdown 2 with some of the same activities? Yes, but it's hardly an improvement, is it? In the same way, SR2022 has some of the stuff of SR3 yet it somehow manages to be worse in almost every measurable way.

Most people wanted an SR2.5 and I fail to understand why they didn't give us that. Just make another sequel to SR2 and ignore SR3 and there you go!

Hence why it's getting absolutely destroyed by the critics:
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They were never going to de-canonize Saints Row the Third or Saints Row IV. That was made abundantly clear. If anything, some of the Loyalty missions in Saint Row IV aka Gat and Shaundi was the devs realizing they kinda made a goof and tried to fix things up the best way they could without ruining the new continuity they created.

Now, Saints Row IV could’ve been the Boss waking up in Steelport from a fever dream that Earth was attacked by aliens, then deciding he wanted to secure the biggest crib of all: the White House itself. And the gangs would’ve been literal government institutions. THAT would’ve been hilarious and grounded.
 
They were never going to de-canonize Saints Row the Third or Saints Row IV. That was made abundantly clear. If anything, some of the Loyalty missions in Saint Row IV aka Gat and Shaundi was the devs realizing they kinda made a goof and tried to fix things up the best way they could without ruining the new continuity they created.

Now, Saints Row IV could’ve been the Boss waking up in Steelport from a fever dream that Earth was attacked by aliens, then deciding he wanted to secure the biggest crib of all: the White House itself. And the gangs would’ve been literal government institutions. THAT would’ve been hilarious and grounded.
I find it mind-blowing that for whatever reason Volition felt the best course of action would be to replace the characters we've known and loved for 10+ years now with a bunch of college incels.

Oh well, maybe the DLC is great or something.
 
I find it mind-blowing that for whatever reason Volition felt the best course of action would be to replace the characters we've known and loved for 10+ years now with a bunch of college incels.

Oh well, maybe the DLC is great or something.
Do you actually know what incel means? 🤔

I mean... only Eli might fit that description and that's a hard maybe.
 
I find it mind-blowing that for whatever reason Volition felt the best course of action would be to replace the characters we've known and loved for 10+ years now with a bunch of college incels.

Oh well, maybe the DLC is great or something.
I’m…pretty sure they’re the exact opposite of incels.

Incels are typically men who are hostile toward women and hate the idea that women dare think for themselves.

Kevin and Eli? They may rib Neenah here and there, but from what I’ve seen they genuinely care and respect her. Even our character to a certain degree.

Eli, from what I’ve seen so far, isn’t an incel. He’s power-hungry and has a borderline ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude about everyone not his crew but…that’s about it.
 
I’m…pretty sure they’re the exact opposite of incels.

Incels are typically men who are hostile toward women and hate the idea that women dare think for themselves.

Kevin and Eli? They may rib Neenah here and there, but from what I’ve seen they genuinely care and respect her. Even our character to a certain degree.

Eli, from what I’ve seen so far, isn’t an incel. He’s power-hungry and has a borderline ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude about everyone not his crew but…that’s about it.
The incel part was (mostly) a joke. The point being that they look like almost any 3 college kids. Not people that would join a gang and start killing people in cold blood.

Gat was crazy as hell since day 1. And he definitely felt like a gang member.
 
The incel part was (mostly) a joke. The point being that they look like almost any 3 college kids. Not people that would join a gang and start killing people in cold blood.

Gat was crazy as hell since day 1. And he definitely felt like a gang member.
I agree with you there. These folks feel like kids you see at a Starbucks working on their college thesis. The Nahualli and Sergio feel more like a credible gang.
 
Yes, the whole premise of the game is absolutely redonkulous. How one decides to respond to it is what divides people.

To me it falls under the "so damn stupid it's funny" category. Even the dialogue, in my opinion, is really funny at times. A random pedestrian just yelled "I don't have enough middle fingers for this bullshit" at me and I totally lost it. The game definitely has its moments.

I suppose the game could've not been called Saints Row and the reception would most likely be helluva more positive but it is what it is. We're stuck with this shit and personally I just hope for proper modding tools so the community can use and abuse what potential lies beneath the surface.
 
I dunno about you, but I think sequels should be clear upgrades over their predecessors. SR2022 is essentially Crackdown 3 all over again. Was that a sequel to Crackdown 2 with some of the same activities? Yes, but it's hardly an improvement, is it? In the same way, SR2022 has some of the stuff of SR3 yet it somehow manages to be worse in almost every measurable way.

Most people wanted an SR2.5 and I fail to understand why they didn't give us that. Just make another sequel to SR2 and ignore SR3 and there you go!

Hence why it's getting absolutely destroyed by the critics:
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Yeah, game failed even for the critics, ironically the critics were the crowd Volition tried to please in 1st place...
As we speak right now, the user score ratings on metacritic is a bloodbath. it's red all over the place.

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Gat was crazy as hell since day 1. And he definitely felt like a gang member.
Yep. On SR2 he cranked that up to eleven after Aisha's death. Him delivering a beatdown on Shogo in tranquil fury while The Boss returned to his SR1 quiet self for that moment speaks volumes.

I agree with you there. These folks feel like kids you see at a Starbucks working on their college thesis. The Nahualli and Sergio feel more like a credible gang.
Exactly. Since the day the 1st trailer dropped, people were saying that. The Panteros were more fit for the role of Saints, thus being protagonists, than the crew Volition decided to christen as the Saints.
Volition attempting to make the crew believable by giving The Boss a Mercenary/PMC experience at the beginning makes things worse.
 
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The incel part was (mostly) a joke. The point being that they look like almost any 3 college kids. Not people that would join a gang and start killing people in cold blood.

Gat was crazy as hell since day 1. And he definitely felt like a gang member.
That's actually the point. The two that fit the 'gang' background is Boss and Neehna.

And I bet if Neehna had been a hyper masculine dude, people would complain that the character was a poor Gat replacement.

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This seems to be a bit more fair for the Playstation 5.

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And I believe you actually have to own it to review it in the Epic Store. Which puts this closer to 75 percent.

Really, what I'm getting from this is that unless Gat, Shaundi and Pierce came back, "it was a shit game" and you can ignore anything else that is said. Because we need to pander to 20+ year old stereotypes and not move a franchise forward.
 
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