SPOILERS I want everyones honest opinion

I understand that you want to hold off, but at least get the story right. It's not about them paying tuition, they've already established that it's a group of young adults that aren't fairing well in the economy and are facing the threat of eviction on top of their jobs and/or respective gangs mistreating them.

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They're under threat of eviction.

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Weird, I remember reading Volition describing the story akin to what I roughly described but whatever. It's a tad better if I indeed read wrong I guess, but doesn't really change all that much. The characters also still appear bland and unlikable beside the uninteresting story. So it seems like even the devs can't get it right anymore as this just doesn't have a proper Saints Row vibe to it. It pretty much feels like just another SR4 without the alien shenanigans.

So, I'm still not very interested. I appreciate the correction though, if it's indeed correct.

If people want to pre-order let them pre-order it's their right to do whatever they want with their money and with the 6 month delay I'm optimistic it'll be stable on launch.
Sure, I wasn't trying to tell people how to spend their money, was just sort of an fyi.
Pre-ordering nowadays is simply asinine and highly risky of receiving a faulty product, just gotta take a look at all the shitty AAA games riddled with bugs at launch, but especially after CP77.
I never pre-ordered any game in my entire life, and I wanted to make an exception with Cyberpunk after Witcher 3 and because of how hyped I was for it feeling like a kid again... Thank fuck I screwed up the pre-order and the retail guy ended up canceling it altogether. Dodged a nasty bullet there.

I also chuckled when I read someone here saying they aren't interested in the game but gonna pre-order it anyway.
 
I understand not wanting to buy it or play it, but it's really weird how SOME people are destined to make sure this game fails by review bombing, openly trashing the game, and things of that nature. At that point you went from being a fan to being an obsessive baby who's upset that they didn't get what they want. Very much elementary school behavior.
 
There's a well-known individual on Twitter's Saints Row community who keeps using his account to dump on the game. I mean, look, if you don't want it, don't play it but why waste your time talking about it?

There are plenty of games I don't like. What do I do? I simply don't play them. I don't think about them. I don't waste my time talking trash about them.
 
These guys somehow made me hyped with the announcement of going back to gangsta, flatlining my hype with that first trailer, making me hyped for it again with the Boss Factory and then flatlining it AGAIN by actually showing gameplay and footage of the story. Yeaaah, I'm not excited and by fuck am I pre-ordering
 
@Beyonce @TheBlueGuys Okay I tried to reply calmly and respectfully without personal attacks but it seems you two don't give a fuck about that so why should I.
Feels nice that you immediately take me for some dumbass hater with a massive hate boner for simply sharing a negative opinion that you disagree with and dislike, and that somehow makes ME the "obsessive baby" with "elementary school behavior". Fucking lol, you guys should really look in the mirror. You come across as blind fanboys/fangirls who are hyper positive about the game just because it's Saints Row, and go around attacking anyone with a different opinion than yours because fuck them how dare they. Not even a morsel of nuance.
Or is it my usage of naughty words that made you believe I'm just trashing the game for the sake of it? Nah, that's just how I talk in general, use them to emphasize and express pain, don't take it all that seriously.

This thread is literally for sharing opinions, so tough shit better get used to it. Otherwise why are you even here? To stroke your confirmation bias?
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

I "waste my time talking about it" probably because I love the fucking franchise, I played a ton of SR2, SR3, and even a bit of SR4 and GOH and you won't believe this but I actually want this game to be good, especially after 4 and GOH. That's also why I'm being critical with it, if I didn't give a toss about any of it I would not be making these long ass fucking replies in the first place. It's not really the game that I don't like but the way they're treating it judging from what they've shown so far.
And for me it's just not enough. But if it is for you, that's cool, good for you. Enjoy. I'll just wait and see how it turns out, but won't hold my breath.

Also, I rarely review games (I wrote like 2 reviews in my life) let alone review bomb them, I don't have the time nor the interest to waste on setting up bots or whatever those base-dwelling losers are using.
A lot of times though review bombing, however shitty it is, in reality, is angry fans/costumers who feel cheated by the devs of a particular game, who either failed to deliver on their promises or didn't give the fans what they wanted. Yes, that's how you make money, by catering to your fans/customers, giving them what they want/expect of you, especially with an established franchise. Artistic freedom is one thing, completely disregarding your fans, your paying customers is another entirely, and is quite fucking idiotic.
So it might be wiser to instead of just simply writing them down as "obsessive babies"/trolls, maybe first look into why the review bombing is happening at all, then act accordingly. Without bitching and moaning about it. Unprofessional.
As a pretty good example, although not quite a video game, take a look at the first Sonic movie. Fans were outraged by the shitty godawful first design of Sonic, the directors listened and changed it, and the movie was pretty well received. Which was as far as I know, unheard of in the movie industry until now.

Most negative comments aren't negative because they're just blindly hating on the game, but because people are disappointed with what they are being served.
Something to think about instead of trashing the fans/(potential) customers and ending up alienating and turning them away.

Have a nice day.
 
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Look, we can all agree that Voliton fucked up the marketing. Big time. That damn wall made me think we’d be getting something akin to Saints Row 1-2. And we got this. Even I wasn’t a big fan of it. I didn’t even realize it was supposed to be a Saints Row game until the literal end of the trailer. I figured it was a spin-off with clear homages to Saints Row.

And I’ve been there — where I felt like I was cheated by a videogame company. Age of Calamity was marketed as a prequel to Zelda: Breath of the Wild until the game turned out to be a plotline ripped straight from The Terminator series. Fallout 76‘s initial trailer made many fans, including me, think this was another standalone Fallout game until they revealed it was going to be an online multiplayer.

Believe me, I know what it’s like. It sucks. Y’all have the right to be mad about it. They implied it’d be one thing, but then it turned out to be something completely different. Especially when the new trio look kind of, well, dorky and dweeby. A shirtless DJ, a dude with poor fashion sense, and Boss and Neenah looking like people you’d find in a coffee shop working on their college thesis. None of them scream ‘tough, badass, scary gangsters’.

To go from the tough badasses we saw in the original series to this must be pretty jarring. And the fact that the plot seems to be, ‘Let’s create a gang to pay off our loans so we don’t get evicted!’ is… Well, let’s just say they could’ve thought this a bit better. Here, let me try:

Neenah, a member of the Panteros, became disillusioned and left the gang following the murder of her mother and baby brother at the cruel hands of the Panteros Boss. With a thirst for revenge, she discovers a kinship with an unlikely source, a crazed psycho who escaped the Santo Illeso jail. With her brain and the psycho’s brawn, the duo become the foundation of what would become the Third Street Saints.

This likely would be a far more compelling story hook than what we have. It’s got all the typical criminal stuff there: gangs, revenge, a crazy nut bag with a penchant for violence, etc. Hell, the prologue could even be us controlling Neenah for a few missions, ending with her discovering her home on fire with her family trapped in there, then Chapter One is when we customize our Psycho and escape from jail…

And now I’m about to craft an entire story arc in this post xD But more to the point: would you be more willing to play a game with the story summary I just wrote? I know I definitely would.
 
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That's pretty much how I feel about it. Will try it out for the gameplay, and if the story somehow ends up being decent, awesome. If not, I guess I'll just skip everything and focus on the gameplay, unless they manage to screw that up as well. And from what I'm reading, it seems to be a bit even worse than their previous games with the camera and other stuff. But hopefully they'll fix all that before release.

And not gonna lie that little intro story you made sounded way more engaging and interesting than the drivel we've got so far. You should apply to be a writer on the team. 😂
 
Neenah, a member of the Panteros, became disillusioned and left the gang following the murder of her mother and baby brother at the cruel hands of the Panteros Boss. With a thirst for revenge, she discovers a kinship with an unlikely source, a crazed psycho who escaped the Santo Illeso jail. With her brain and the psycho’s brawn, the duo become the foundation of what would become the Third Street Saints.
Ill be honest, this is what I was always expecting to happen since I first found out that Neenah was part of Los Panteros.

But... Boss, Neenah, Eli, and Kevin do consider themselves to be a family, and as soon as the Panteros cause Eli to bleed out, Neenah immediately quits the Panteros and is looking to get revenge... So the revenge driven story is still in there... It's just not quite as dramatic as it could have been.

Definitely not even close to Lin, Aisha, or Carlos.
 
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@Beyonce @TheBlueGuys Okay I tried to reply calmly and respectfully without personal attacks but it seems you two don't give a fuck about that so why should I.
Feels nice that you immediately take me for some dumbass hater with a massive hate boner for simply sharing a negative opinion that you disagree with and dislike, and that somehow makes ME the "obsessive baby" with "elementary school behavior". Fucking lol, you guys should really look in the mirror. You come across as blind fanboys/fangirls who are hyper positive about the game just because it's Saints Row, and go around attacking anyone with a different opinion than yours because fuck them how dare they. Not even a morsel of nuance.
Or is it my usage of naughty words that made you believe I'm just trashing the game for the sake of it? Nah, that's just how I talk in general, use them to emphasize and express pain, don't take it all that seriously.

This thread is literally for sharing opinions, so tough shit better get used to it. Otherwise why are you even here? To stroke your confirmation bias?
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

I "waste my time talking about it" probably because I love the fucking franchise, I played a ton of SR2, SR3, and even a bit of SR4 and GOH and you won't believe this but I actually want this game to be good, especially after 4 and GOH. That's also why I'm being critical with it, if I didn't give a toss about any of it I would not be making these long ass fucking replies in the first place. It's not really the game that I don't like but the way they're treating it judging from what they've shown so far.
And for me it's just not enough. But if it is for you, that's cool, good for you. Enjoy. I'll just wait and see how it turns out, but won't hold my breath.

Also, I rarely review games (I wrote like 2 reviews in my life) let alone review bomb them, I don't have the time nor the interest to waste on setting up bots or whatever those base-dwelling losers are using.
A lot of times though review bombing, however shitty it is, in reality, is angry fans/costumers who feel cheated by the devs of a particular game, who either failed to deliver on their promises or didn't give the fans what they wanted. Yes, that's how you make money, by catering to your fans/customers, giving them what they want/expect of you, especially with an established franchise. Artistic freedom is one thing, completely disregarding your fans, your paying customers is another entirely, and is quite fucking idiotic.
So it might be wiser to instead of just simply writing them down as "obsessive babies"/trolls, maybe first look into why the review bombing is happening at all, then act accordingly. Without bitching and moaning about it. Unprofessional.
As a pretty good example, although not quite a video game, take a look at the first Sonic movie. Fans were outraged by the shitty godawful first design of Sonic, the directors listened and changed it, and the movie was pretty well received. Which was as far as I know, unheard of in the movie industry until now.

Most negative comments aren't negative because they're just blindly hating on the game, but because people are disappointed with what they are being served.
Something to think about instead of trashing the fans/(potential) customers and ending up alienating and turning them away.

Have a nice day.
I'm not reading all of that, because I didn't even attack you 😭😭😭
 
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